Marriage, Stability, and Ordination

Dear Catholic Friends,

We need to talk about this whole married priests things.  Because no doubt some of you read Simcha’s post, and you thought, “Well, sure, those are difficulties.  But protestant pastors and their wives deal with these little parish politics all the time.  Surely we can do it, too.”  And the answer is of course we can.   We could even have sermons about tithing.

But here’s what you need to know: Protestant ministry does not have the job stability of the catholic priesthood.

See most of us only know about protestant ministers from the front facade.  Church, steeple, open the doors and there’s the minister, his wife, and their denominationally-appropriate number of little people.  We think, ha!  This works just like the catholic church, only with wedding rings!  He goes to seminary, he gets assigned a church, his family helps out with vacuuming the pews and folding bulletins, what a life!

And we assume all this works just like the catholic church in another respect: Once a priest, always a priest.  Just do a half-decent job, and the diocese will find a little spot for you somewhere.

No.  It is not like this, anymore than getting  PhD means you’ll soon be a tenured professor.  If we could magically put clerical collars on every former pastor in America, you would drop your coffee.  Yes, your coffee, because that really friendly older guy working the morning shift at Starbucks?  The one that doesn’t say “ya know?” every other word?  He’s probably a former pastor.  (Or a PhD.)

One neat thing about being a a bachelor is that you don’t have a family to support. Men really understand this, which is why historically being a bachelor has had such appeal.  If there isn’t much work in your chosen profession, it isn’t the end of the world.  A friend with an empty couch, a few bucks for groceries . . . you can live on very little if you must.  It works out well for the catholic clergy:  In the unlikely event that there is a sudden glut of catholic (celibate) priests, well, it’s not exactly an employment crisis.  Always room in the rectory for one more bunk.

But if you’re a married minister, it’s another story.  Your church can only afford so much in the way of salaries, and there might not be a congregation hiring full-time, professional-wage staff just now.  But your kids still need to eat.  You can’t just take that assisant-vicar’s co-helper rotation with the minuscule stipend, and philosophically chalk it up to a time for extra prayer and fasting.   You’ve got to make a living.  A real living.  So you go back to doing whatever it was you did before you were ordained — construction, retail, maybe a professional position if you’re lucky and you have the skills.

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Now friends perhaps you think I exaggerate.  Perhaps you think I am using my broad powers of imagination to promote an arch-conservative agenda.  So allow me to give you a list of the “where are they now” of my personal, real-life friends who are former or current married protestant ministers.  All of these men have been through seminary.  They are intelligent, capable, competent, and could hold their own in the ranks of the catholic clergy.  (Which is saying something — I am surrounded by good priests.)  These are not internet friends, these are real guys I speak to in person on a regular basis.  So I’m leaving them as anonymous as I can:

Exhibit A: Was a senior pastor with significant experience, then his church let him go.  Returned to graduate school, earned a PhD, worked in a church position while in school. Couldn’t get a full-time job after.  His wife works full-time now, he homeschools the kids and cobbles together a combination of a freelance preaching gigs, ministry events, and other odd jobs.  (Need a tree cut down?)  Just picked up an adjunct teaching job he hopes will go full time.

Exhibit B: Pastor in a major denomination, congregation laid him off after decades in the ministry.  Applied for positions at other congregations within the denomination, no job offers.  He and his wife both found part-time work that gradually led to full-time work. She works in a nursing home, he works at a grocery store.

Exhibit C: Currently employed, full-time pastor with a major denomination.  And his wife works full time anyway, because there is no way . . . . Repeat: No Way they could pay their bills otherwise.  I know this because these people live in my neighborhood.  And you don’t live in my neighborhood because you are trying to impress anybody. Children attend public schools (no private school tuition), wear hand-me-downs, they drive old cars.  Normal modest middle class life, if you don’t count the part about every spare moment being utterly devoted to the needs of the church.

There are more, but I’ll stop there since you are begging for mercy.  But any more of this starry-eyed dreaming, and you’ll be sent to do rounds with the minister’s wife for penance.

Sincerely,

Jennifer.

 

 

 

Marriage & the vocation crises

Simcha explains why married priests are a bad idea.  H/T to Mrs. Darwin, since “D” comes before “I”, so I saw it there first.

Funny thought from the other week.  So I was sitting standing at mass and two of my students (from separate class-years) were serving that day.  And my very-attentive-to-the-Gospel self thinks:

1.) “Oh yeah, they’d make a great couple”.  Which leads to . . .

2.)  “Well, yes, allowing girls to serve at the altar does foster vocations.  Just maybe not the vocations we had intended.”  Which causes me to conclude . . .

3.) “Then again, where do priests come from?  You need the one vocation if you mean to have the other.”

So that’s what I think about while I am doing my best to look like I’m paying attention, but slip on my effort to actually be paying attention.  Yep, that’ll come up in confession. Again.

–> For the record, I have no particular opinion on whether girls should be altar servers*.   Either my pope, bishop, and pastor know what they are doing, or else if they are failing spectacularly then thank goodness that one it isn’t on my head.  I figure my layperson watchdog powers are better served if I just stick to worrying about the ten commandments.

But I thought, hmmn.  Maybe someone in the hierarchy has actually thought about this?  And having a little catholic match-making service in the sacristy is all part of the program?  Sort of long-range strategic plan.  How else do you expect the thirty practicing catholic kids in the city to actually get to know each other?

Or not.  But my goodness I’m definitely with Simcha on encouraging our youth to pick just one vocation at a time.   I have yet to meet a priest or a married man who isn’t sufficiently poured out with just the lot God gives him.

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*I do think that in parishes where only boys serve on the altar, it is important to have some counterpart role for the girls.  Could be something completely different.  But a specific place where they can serve in the church from an early age.  Ideally something that fosters uniquely feminine vocations.  There is a longer missive associated with this, but I save it for another day.

Sunday Thoughts

Three of them:

1)   Months on end spent vomiting really is excellent preparation for parenthood.   Allows you to stand calmly in the bathroom door at midnight and give your child practical tips for dealing with her stomach virus.  And you are thinking, “Ha.  Wish I couldda kept my popsicles down when I was pregnant with you.”  But you don’t say that.  You are tender and encouraging, and very pleased with the thought that the likely break is coming not at 14 weeks, or 24 weeks, or heaven forbid 40 weeks, but probably in just a few hours.  Still, you will be quite happy when it is all over.

2)  P.G. Wodehouse.  Our friend.  Just the companion for the restless mother, relaxing in the wee hours between pep-rallies in the bathroom.  Better on the second reading, I’ll add.

3) H/T to The Pulp.It for this article on why you should not shop on Sundays.  And since I am not afraid to be insufferable, let me just totally ruin your plans . . . Going out to brunch does more of the same.  Just say no.

Sunday:  Get up.  Get a shower.  Go to Mass.  Come home.  Rest.

Works great every time*.  Try it.

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*Actual mileage may very, subject to some limitations due to VOMITING CHILDREN.  DID I MENTION VOMITING CHILDREN?!  Actually just one of them.  SuperHusband took the healthy people to the usual mass then penitentially kept them out on the playground awaaaay from the ill sibling.   I went to the Spanish mass after lunch.  Lovely Mass, need to go to it more often.  Note to self: Learn Spanish.  Worth the risk.

Hoodlum-Loving Pro-Life Ninjas

The reference to ninjas is tucked inside Simcha Fischer’s otherwise apolitical posting of a Loretta Lynn housewife song:

It seems like a pretty good follow-up to the March for Life, doesn’t it?  You know, that day when hundreds of thousands of ninjas march to show their support of women and babies.  I say “ninjas” because they somehow slip by the attention of the media — amazing!  It’s like they were never there.  And yet they get the job done.

Our local March for Life, however, was not entirely ignored by the media.  Our free entertainment weekly, which doubles as our incisive political reporting weekly*, made mention of the event:  Our intrepid reporter tells us that the March happened, and then utterly topples the foundations of the Pro-Life movement, by pointing out that all those aborted babies would have grown up to be criminals anyway.

Not his idea, he was citing Levitt & Dubner in the very famous Freakonomics.  (The hardcover was published William Morrow, 2005.  You can buy other versions now, of course.)  The book doesn’t make any moral prescriptions, by the way — economists general don’t.  But it really does set forth the theory that the drop in the crime rate that occurred in the 1990’s was the direct result of Roe v. Wade.  The idea being that the really bad mothers know they are really bad mothers, so they abort their children rather than raising them up to a life of crime.  And 18 years later, you and I reap the benefits of that instinctive act of preemptive genocide.

If only all those marching ninjas had known!

But all mockery aside, our reporter got to the bizarre heart of the Pro-Life movement: We actually believe that even the children of ne’er-do-wells should not be summarily executed.  We are willing to take the risk that you, child of poverty, decadence, and a very broken home, may or may not live out the hope embodied in your cute little baby smile.

Radical freedom.  The idea that the right to life belongs even the children of those other kinds of people.   The idea that having lousy parents is not, in itself, a capital crime.

And so I’m thankful to our reporter for giving us such a clear vision of the divide.  We see how those who want to apply the abortion chapter of Freakonomics to public policy feel about the human race:  What’s a few million dead bodies, if it lowers the crime rate?

Which explains why you would need thousands upon thousands of ninjas, if you wanted to go head-to-head with a regime like that.

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*I am not kidding about the politics — in addition to vast coverage of bars, restaurants, and services with 1-900 phone numbers, it really is the only local paper that does investigative reporting.  And we wonder why the mainstream newspapers are failing.

Christians Caught in the Act

I’ve got a real weak spot for people who take the Gospel earnestly.  Joel & Rachel write here about “Why We Love the Mennonites”.  They share seven ways the Mennonites they have known act like actual Christians.  Point #7 gets to the heart of it*:

Jesus is the centre of everything they do. All the points mentioned above are because they are trying to take Jesus seriously as he is presented in the Bible. That following Jesus is about more than just saying a one-time prayer. But it is entering into a kingdom that is slowly permeating and overtaking this world. Not in violent, loud ways, but in subtle ways. In a powerful love that actually believes the love of Christ is the most powerful force in this world and God entrusted his people with that power to use it for his glory and for his kingdom. Sometimes in Christian circles that become very social justice driven, for some reason Jesus plays a less central role. I love the Mennonites because Jesus is the center and is the motivation for everything they do.

Other than a disagreement about the details of non-violence, and of course the necessary passion for good catechesis, this is all catholic teaching.  (It is not a huge surprise that protestants talking about protestants tend to prefer doctrinal minimalism. You just ignore that part.)

Take-away lesson is this:  Act like a Christian. If you managed to pull off all seven points, you could accidentally end up beatified.

And your hostess, Guilty Party #1, adds this: Don’t whine about church unity when you haven’t got your act together.  This is exactly why the church is all torn up right now.  Peace and unity are the product of holiness, not the other way around.

This ends our morning kick-in-the-pants.  Have a great Wednesday.

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*Apparently good German cooking is strictly optional.  Though didn’t Thomas Aquinas study in Cologne?  And see how well he turned out.  I wouldn’t toss the spaetzle too hastily.

Online Catholic Writers’ Conference is March 21-27

This is an excellent event.  Free, no-obligation, and exceedingly helpful.  Highly recommended.  Open to any kind of writer, any skill level.

And FYI they are still accepting presenters.  Say, if you could totally write the book, so to speak, on how to build the perfect bad guy, or maintain suspense, or some other important writerly skill.  Ahem.

–> Classes BTW can be either a discussion-forum class led all week, or a on-hour, one-time chat session Q&A.  (Or both — some people combine.)  So you can pick the format that suits your needs and availability.

Here’s a little info from the conference website

The annual Catholic Writers’ Conference Online is scheduled for March 21-27. Why join this conference?

* It’s Free!
* It’s Online! All classes are held via live scheduled chats or week-long forums. Work it around your busy schedule. Take as many or as few classes as you wish.
* It’s Opportunity! Meet writers, editors, publishers and marketers from around the world! Pitch Sessions with publishers (Catholic and non-Catholic) are available on a limited basis.
* It’s a Blessing!
Calendar of Events for Presenters and Attendees:

REGISTRATION: September 16-March 1
Feb 28: Deadline for Presenter sign-up with bio, description of course (please use survey link)
Feb 28: Deadline for Presenters who will hear pitch sessions to send guidelines or link to guidelines (please use survey link)
Feb 28: Deadline for presenter Amazon links for the Conference Kiosk
Feb 28: Deadline for presenter Banner ads
March 1: Deadline for participant sign-up
March 10: Presenters wishing to have us post handouts should send them
March 1-15 (or until full): Registration for presenting book pitches to publishers
March 15-21: Presenters post handouts and forum lessons

Learn more at www.catholicwritersconference.com.

Hide Me in Your Wounds CD

Hathaway posts his fan mail, and also mentions the lives changed by listeners to his own homegrown prayer CD.

I do not actually get to listen to my copy.  There’s no CD player in my truck, and very little quiet around the house*.   But here’s what my copy is super useful for: CCD.

Because after a while, I’m 98% sure the kids are sick of listening to my voice.  So at the end of class (or the beginning, or the middle), I can pick out a lesson-appropriate prayer off the CD, and the kids can quietly meditate to the sound of somebody else.

FYI John has a very neutral accent and clear voice (he is a trained singer), and no weird dramatic stuff.  Just prayers.  From a guy who has a for-real prayer life, which I know because I have caught him at it.  Prayers include about everything you could want a student to know:

Byzantine Opening Prayers
Come Holy Spirit
Breathe in Me O Holy Spirit
Lorica of St. Patrick
Morning Offering
Acts of Faith, Hope and Love
Short Aspirations
Prayers for Priests,
Vocations,
and the Holy Souls
Morning Prayer of J.H. Newman
St. Michael Prayer
Litany of the Saints
St. Bridget Prayers
St. Therese Prayer
Prayers of St. Ignatius
Franciscan Peace Prayer
St. Anselm Daily Prayer
St. Michael Chaplet
Prayers for Spiritual Growth
Litany of Humility
Prayer to the Infant of Prague
Flos Carmeli

Or at least enough to keep you quite busy.

FYI I am in the middle of trying to persuade the man to record a music CD for use in religious ed, too.  Let him know if you have a hymn request for that.  Something you want to be able to teach your students in class (or children at home), but maybe you want some help leading, because you aren’t  a brilliant musician.  Or maybe you are a brilliant musician, but you still like to play a CD for the kids when they sing.

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*Yes, I know I listen to audio books while exercising or folding laundry.  I guess I should listen to prayer CD’s while doing that.  Hathaway nods.  But you don’t understand, John, I’ve got this great lecture series on Byzantine history — I didn’t even know I *liked* Byzantine history.  Hathaway says, maybe you’ll like praying, too.  You could be surprised.

whether to give to panhandlers

Julie at Happy Catholic answers the question.  Need to replenish my snack box.

The Reading Man’s Religion

Eric Sammons posts a link to a bible-in-a-year program for CATHOLICS.  Yes, Catholics!  You don’t have to use one of those abridged-bible programs, and then quick cram in extra books at the end!  All books of bible already accounted for!

And if that’s not enough . . . read the CATECHISM along with it!  The whole thing!  Because there is no ten-point statement of faith for us, no sir!  After nearly 2,000 years of theological debate, it is true we still refuse to corner you at a cocktail party and lay out the particulars of the End Times, but we’ve managed to figure out a thing or two (or 2,865) all the same.

Be Catholic.  We’ve got the big books.  And we’re thinking maybe we even ought to read them.  I bet the IC would approve.

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Fine print: 356-day program (so you can finish in less than a year, if it’s a leap year).  You can start any time, the days are simply numbered one after another.  You could get behind on Wednesdays and Fridays, and then catch up in one giant fest on Sundays, or vice-versa.   You could take more than one year to read the whole thing, but we won’t talk about that.  And every day there is a reading from a historical Old Testament book, a piece of wisdom literature, and a New Testament book.  (Plus the catechism, of course).  So you are not, repeat: ARE NOT, utterly plunged into Leviticus or Numbers for weeks on end with no respite.  That is, you have a nice Gospel passage about “taking up your cross” or some such thing to remind you that reading the $%^#@* building plans divinely inspired designed for the tabernacle is for your own benefit.   (And that you should go to confession for being so impatient about wanting to get on with the story.  Don’t worry, plenty of time for graphic violence mid-year, must work through a little front matter first.)

Please Pray for John C. Hathaway

Can’t believe I didn’t post this earlier today.  Anyway, please pray for John Hathaway.  You can be confident he will return the favor.

He is requesting the intercession of Bl. Herman and Bl. Margaret of Castello.

Thank you.

(His blog is here, for those who don’t know him.  If I could only have one other family in my parish, the Hathaways would win.  Utterly delightful to people know.)